What We Learned About Trump's Dinner Party After Kanye's Explosive Timcast Appearance
/The political world has been obsessed the past week about a dinner with former President Donald J. Trump, Ye, and his controversial companions. Ye (formerly known as Kanye West) was expected, but he brought along unannounced guests who are more controversial than Ye, commentators Milo Yiannopoulos and Nick Fuentes. Yiannopoulos is a British right-wing provocateur and Nick Fuentes is a white nationalist. Trump has been widely criticized for entertaining these guests, from both sides of the political aisle and the mainstream media.
A reporter from Timcast broke the dinner story, and Monday night, Ye, Fuentes, and Yiannopoulos appeared on Timcast with Tim Pool. Though the interview was short, due to Ye storming off after Pool pushed back on Ye’s conspiratorial antisemitic comments, there were a few takeaways worth mentioning.
Trump did not know Fuentes.
There are many on the right who the media wrongly dubs as “white supremacists” or “white nationalists.” In the case of Fuentes, he is a racist who has called Trump a “cuck” for disavowing white supremacy. He marched in Charlottesville, called it an “incredible rally,” and said, “you will not replace us.” He belittled segregation and said it was better for blacks to be separated. He’s also denied that millions of Jews were killed in the Holocaust, saying “the Math doesn’t seem to add up there.”
Men like Fuentes have a lot in common with their counterparts on the left: obsessed with identity politics and willing to use an authoritative power to mold the nation to his liking.
For Trump to entertain such a figure is terrible, and since the dinner, Trump has denied knowing Fuentes. The trio confirmed that to be the case.
If Yiannopoulos had a secret agenda to destroy Trump, as some floated theories on social media suggest, confirming Trump had no idea who Fuentes was, puts a major dent into that plan. As to the agenda, perhaps there is none. Association with Fuentes is negative on Trump and Ye, and Yiannopoulos is currently Ye’s campaign manager. The only benefit is chaos, which is where Yiannopoulos thrives.
There were conflicting reports about whether Trump talked to, sat, or ate with Fuentes. On Timcast, Ye said he asked Trump if he wanted to sit alone, and he said, “No, bring your friends in.” Newsmax reporter Karen Giorno and Jamar Montgomery, a Boeing engineer, were also present according to Ye.
Ye posted a video with him and Yiannopoulos after the dinner, claiming Trump was impressed with Fuentes. It’s now been deleted.
Ye scheduled the dinner.
“I was talking to Trump for about a month. We had scheduled the dinner in October, and then he announced for president, and he pushed the dinner back to November.” On October 9, Ye tweeted he was “going death con 3 On JEWISH PEOPLE.” It’s possible the initial dinner was agreed upon before Ye’s increasingly controversial statements. As to why Trump continued to host Ye, Trump claimed he was helping a “seriously troubled man, who just happens to be black…” Trump noted Ye had been decimated in business, Ye had always been good to him, and needed “advice.” His 3 guests were unannounced, and he told him not to run because he can’t win. Trump ended his post on Truth Social stating, “Fake News went CRAZY!” But this dinner is not something easily dismissed. For Republicans already frustrated by midterm election losses and Trump’s heavy hand in GOP politics, this further shows a lack of judgment from either Trump, his staff, or both.
Milo introduced Fuentes to Ye.
I highly doubted Ye knew who Fuentes was. You’d have to be very entrenched in political social media to have an idea who Fuentes is, but Yiannopoulos would know. After the cancelation of Ye began, other banished figures reached out. The producer of Alex Jones informed Ye that Yiannopoulos wanted to connect, and they did. Yiannopoulos then suggested bringing on Fuentes “as an enormous extra brain, firepower.” He said Fuentes was an “extraordinarily brilliant political commentator,” who had “been treated just about as badly as anybody, so I thought he deserved to be in the room, too.”
Pool had more questions about their arrangement, but Pool never got the chance to unpack their relationship.
Pool didn’t get the opportunity to dive into more dinner details, like Trump’s reaction to Ye asking him to be the VP or Trump’s bashing of Kim Kardashian, the mother of Ye’s children. Pool wanted to focus on the news and eventually talk about Ye’s antisemitic conspiracies, but Ye jumped right into it. When Pool admitted “they” had been unfair to Ye, meaning the corporate media, Ye was upset Pool would not concede it was the Jews. As Fuentes began to make his case, Ye stormed off and his posse followed.
Throughout the short discussion, Pool challenged Ye to name the “them” behind Ye’s woes as specific persons rather than an entire ethnic group, but Ye didn’t want to hear it. He got up and left after 21 minutes.